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		<title>By: Rey Quisumbing</title>
		<link>http://www.mixph.com/2007/10/pangasius-catfish-new-business-opportunities.html/comment-page-4#comment-30253</link>
		<dc:creator>Rey Quisumbing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks,

Before venturing into Pangasius production, please consider the market and all the costs to produce this product. In the Phils, this is a new market and a lot are being swayed to go into it but market is just based on how much is Vietnam producing and selling or exporting. How many kilos of feeds does it need to produce a kilo of the product, say the Feed Conversion Ratio (FCR).

Now, if Vietnam is exporting this product to the Phils and since producing a kilo of Pangasius in Vietnam is a lot cheaper than in the Phils consider this scenario. 
What if Vietnam sells their product a lot cheaper than what the Phils would be producing and selling to protect their market share? A lot of those riding the band wagon producing Pangasius in the Phils would not only be losing their shirts but even their collaterals. 

Wake up folks, stop, look and evaluate. Do not just believe on everything on what these people promoting Pangasius are saying, more so the Feed Millers and Fingerling Suppliers as they are just after selling their feeds and their fingerlings. Let it not be said that &quot; we were not born yesterday! &quot; 
My 5 cents worth plus Vat opinion. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks,</p>
<p>Before venturing into Pangasius production, please consider the market and all the costs to produce this product. In the Phils, this is a new market and a lot are being swayed to go into it but market is just based on how much is Vietnam producing and selling or exporting. How many kilos of feeds does it need to produce a kilo of the product, say the Feed Conversion Ratio (FCR).</p>
<p>Now, if Vietnam is exporting this product to the Phils and since producing a kilo of Pangasius in Vietnam is a lot cheaper than in the Phils consider this scenario.<br />
What if Vietnam sells their product a lot cheaper than what the Phils would be producing and selling to protect their market share? A lot of those riding the band wagon producing Pangasius in the Phils would not only be losing their shirts but even their collaterals. </p>
<p>Wake up folks, stop, look and evaluate. Do not just believe on everything on what these people promoting Pangasius are saying, more so the Feed Millers and Fingerling Suppliers as they are just after selling their feeds and their fingerlings. Let it not be said that &#8221; we were not born yesterday! &#8221;<br />
My 5 cents worth plus Vat opinion. . .</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Mari</title>
		<link>http://www.mixph.com/2007/10/pangasius-catfish-new-business-opportunities.html/comment-page-4#comment-30251</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose Mari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Bayang:

Pangasius will definitely not bite or eat you even if they are 50 kg in size.  But yes, it will be dangerous to swim with pangasius even with their 5 kg size.  When agitated, Pangasius can go bezerk and will be very painful if not fatal to be hit on any body part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Bayang:</p>
<p>Pangasius will definitely not bite or eat you even if they are 50 kg in size.  But yes, it will be dangerous to swim with pangasius even with their 5 kg size.  When agitated, Pangasius can go bezerk and will be very painful if not fatal to be hit on any body part.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelito C. Bayang</title>
		<link>http://www.mixph.com/2007/10/pangasius-catfish-new-business-opportunities.html/comment-page-4#comment-30169</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelito C. Bayang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you let pangasius grow for up to 50 kilos for example, is it dangerous to swim on the ponds where they are grown. considering its big size?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you let pangasius grow for up to 50 kilos for example, is it dangerous to swim on the ponds where they are grown. considering its big size?</p>
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		<title>By: Celia tecson</title>
		<link>http://www.mixph.com/2007/10/pangasius-catfish-new-business-opportunities.html/comment-page-3#comment-29621</link>
		<dc:creator>Celia tecson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOu can buy fingerlings at St. Martha Farms in Teresa, Rizal.  Call 4890967</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOu can buy fingerlings at St. Martha Farms in Teresa, Rizal.  Call 4890967</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
		<link>http://www.mixph.com/2007/10/pangasius-catfish-new-business-opportunities.html/comment-page-3#comment-29288</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 04:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where from? i may provide you with fingerlings.. u may contact me through this numbers. 09295353731</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where from? i may provide you with fingerlings.. u may contact me through this numbers. 09295353731</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
		<link>http://www.mixph.com/2007/10/pangasius-catfish-new-business-opportunities.html/comment-page-3#comment-29084</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have 3 hectars farm in Surigao del Norte. How can we apply for Vitarich Contact Farming? Pls. email me @ stefanieperez0820@yahoo.com

thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have 3 hectars farm in Surigao del Norte. How can we apply for Vitarich Contact Farming? Pls. email me @ <a href="mailto:stefanieperez0820@yahoo.com">stefanieperez0820@yahoo.com</a></p>
<p>thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Mari</title>
		<link>http://www.mixph.com/2007/10/pangasius-catfish-new-business-opportunities.html/comment-page-3#comment-29006</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose Mari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on the study conducted by Anuar, H and A.Y. Nurulazneer of the Inst. Tropical Aquacul., Univ. of Malaysia entitled “Adaptability of Putin Bunga, Pangasius sutchi (=P. hypopthalmus) larvae and juveniles to brackishwater”, Pangasius larvae and juveniles can tolerate a maximum salinity of 8ppt.

Brackishwater has a salinity of over 20ppt.

The paper did not say if Pangasius will grow at this salinity because their experiment was limited to 48 hours salinity exposure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the study conducted by Anuar, H and A.Y. Nurulazneer of the Inst. Tropical Aquacul., Univ. of Malaysia entitled “Adaptability of Putin Bunga, Pangasius sutchi (=P. hypopthalmus) larvae and juveniles to brackishwater”, Pangasius larvae and juveniles can tolerate a maximum salinity of 8ppt.</p>
<p>Brackishwater has a salinity of over 20ppt.</p>
<p>The paper did not say if Pangasius will grow at this salinity because their experiment was limited to 48 hours salinity exposure.</p>
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		<title>By: nadeem alam</title>
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		<dc:creator>nadeem alam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear All

(1)Sub: Culture of Pangas in low – high Salinity waters


Has any one cultured pangus (any one of the species) in higher salinity? if so what are the tolerant salinity levels, can commercial culture of Pangas be successfully carried out in say water with salinity levels of 5,10 or 15,20ppt?

which species is higher PPT tolerant? and commercially cultured and in which country?

(2)Sub; environmental risk assessment.

As you are aware we have been since quite some time studying into the possibilities of importing and starting Pangasius culture in Sindh Pakistan and are pleased to note that after a study some 5 years ago in the Philippines  they found that it is “LOW RISK” to the environment in case it escaped to our


(a) our other connected production ponds where poly culture of India and Chinese carps Rahu, Thala, Mori,Grass carp, Silver carp and Common carp is being done.


(b)or our waterways and that pangasius will not mess up the balance of our Local species major carps i.e.Rahu, Thala, Mori and others sweet water fishes ?what are your views?


Which are the countries who have recently introduced the above fish besides Bangladesh? also where can i find (BFAR) Environmental Risk Assessment Study on the impact of Pangasius made 5 years ago? this study is very important to go through by all interested importers wanting to start Pangas commercial farming.


Did Bangladesh conduct a similar study?


regards,

Nadeem Alam
Dilshad Fish &amp; Shrimp Farms
Karachi, Sindh
Pakistan
dfsfarms@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear All</p>
<p>(1)Sub: Culture of Pangas in low – high Salinity waters</p>
<p>Has any one cultured pangus (any one of the species) in higher salinity? if so what are the tolerant salinity levels, can commercial culture of Pangas be successfully carried out in say water with salinity levels of 5,10 or 15,20ppt?</p>
<p>which species is higher PPT tolerant? and commercially cultured and in which country?</p>
<p>(2)Sub; environmental risk assessment.</p>
<p>As you are aware we have been since quite some time studying into the possibilities of importing and starting Pangasius culture in Sindh Pakistan and are pleased to note that after a study some 5 years ago in the Philippines  they found that it is “LOW RISK” to the environment in case it escaped to our</p>
<p>(a) our other connected production ponds where poly culture of India and Chinese carps Rahu, Thala, Mori,Grass carp, Silver carp and Common carp is being done.</p>
<p>(b)or our waterways and that pangasius will not mess up the balance of our Local species major carps i.e.Rahu, Thala, Mori and others sweet water fishes ?what are your views?</p>
<p>Which are the countries who have recently introduced the above fish besides Bangladesh? also where can i find (BFAR) Environmental Risk Assessment Study on the impact of Pangasius made 5 years ago? this study is very important to go through by all interested importers wanting to start Pangas commercial farming.</p>
<p>Did Bangladesh conduct a similar study?</p>
<p>regards,</p>
<p>Nadeem Alam<br />
Dilshad Fish &amp; Shrimp Farms<br />
Karachi, Sindh<br />
Pakistan<br />
<a href="mailto:dfsfarms@yahoo.com">dfsfarms@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jose Mari</title>
		<link>http://www.mixph.com/2007/10/pangasius-catfish-new-business-opportunities.html/comment-page-3#comment-28812</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose Mari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Thuy:
First of all, eating does not necessarily mean that they are digested and assimilated.  

It is true that soya and rice bran are plant materials but compared to other plant based feed ingredients, they are readily digestible because they do not contain cellulosic cell wall.  This is the reason whey soya has been considered a good substitute for fish meal.

A true omnivore will will consume and digest both animal based protein and plant based (algae and higher plants) which contain cellulose because they produce cellulytic enzymes in their guts.  Tilapia has this ability but sad to say, Pangasius do not have this capability.

Please review your Fish Physiology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Thuy:<br />
First of all, eating does not necessarily mean that they are digested and assimilated.  </p>
<p>It is true that soya and rice bran are plant materials but compared to other plant based feed ingredients, they are readily digestible because they do not contain cellulosic cell wall.  This is the reason whey soya has been considered a good substitute for fish meal.</p>
<p>A true omnivore will will consume and digest both animal based protein and plant based (algae and higher plants) which contain cellulose because they produce cellulytic enzymes in their guts.  Tilapia has this ability but sad to say, Pangasius do not have this capability.</p>
<p>Please review your Fish Physiology.</p>
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		<title>By: Thuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any aquatic animal growth for this matter is affected by the protein content of the feed they are taking - There is an optimum range of protein requirement for each species. Also, the environmental conditions will affect the growth even though the feed contain an optimum level of protein.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any aquatic animal growth for this matter is affected by the protein content of the feed they are taking &#8211; There is an optimum range of protein requirement for each species. Also, the environmental conditions will affect the growth even though the feed contain an optimum level of protein.</p>
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		<title>By: Thuy</title>
		<link>http://www.mixph.com/2007/10/pangasius-catfish-new-business-opportunities.html/comment-page-3#comment-28778</link>
		<dc:creator>Thuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pangasius is omnivore. For sure they will eat soya bean meal and rice bran - and this are plant materials. I&#039;ve work in an aquauclture company in Vietnam. Pangasius is all around us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pangasius is omnivore. For sure they will eat soya bean meal and rice bran &#8211; and this are plant materials. I&#8217;ve work in an aquauclture company in Vietnam. Pangasius is all around us.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Mari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose Mari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 05:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Rodelyn:
Definitely, the protein content of the feed is the most important among the different components of the feed.  The growth of your fish (any fish for that matter) will depend on the protein content of the feed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Rodelyn:<br />
Definitely, the protein content of the feed is the most important among the different components of the feed.  The growth of your fish (any fish for that matter) will depend on the protein content of the feed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jun D</title>
		<link>http://www.mixph.com/2007/10/pangasius-catfish-new-business-opportunities.html/comment-page-3#comment-28736</link>
		<dc:creator>Jun D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attn. Alma Rayala,

I can source Panga fingerlings for you. May I know the location of your farm?

Thanks

JuN D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attn. Alma Rayala,</p>
<p>I can source Panga fingerlings for you. May I know the location of your farm?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>JuN D.</p>
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		<title>By: rodelyn</title>
		<link>http://www.mixph.com/2007/10/pangasius-catfish-new-business-opportunities.html/comment-page-3#comment-28631</link>
		<dc:creator>rodelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does the protein content of the feeds fed to pangasius can affect its growth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does the protein content of the feeds fed to pangasius can affect its growth?</p>
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		<title>By: Worasit Prommee</title>
		<link>http://www.mixph.com/2007/10/pangasius-catfish-new-business-opportunities.html/comment-page-3#comment-27070</link>
		<dc:creator>Worasit Prommee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Josemari De Guzman,

Sorry for very late response.
The export live fish culture is special tactic and experienced to safe fish before packing and must best survival at destination.
Many breeders or middlemen try export but fail in packing / transport process.   It seem simple but not and we also cooperate with fisheries here for asisted in transport fish for some sectors.
Good fish by poor treat / transport can kill both sides and we not do that.   Please feel free to contact me for discussion in fish cuiture or others topics from Thailand.

Regards,

Worasit Prommee
Info@AsiaTropic.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Josemari De Guzman,</p>
<p>Sorry for very late response.<br />
The export live fish culture is special tactic and experienced to safe fish before packing and must best survival at destination.<br />
Many breeders or middlemen try export but fail in packing / transport process.   It seem simple but not and we also cooperate with fisheries here for asisted in transport fish for some sectors.<br />
Good fish by poor treat / transport can kill both sides and we not do that.   Please feel free to contact me for discussion in fish cuiture or others topics from Thailand.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Worasit Prommee<br />
<a href="mailto:Info@AsiaTropic.com">Info@AsiaTropic.com</a></p>
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