One of fast expanding business in Manila, and in most Metro cities nationwide, is the water refilling station. It’s mushrooming on every street corner, because a lot of people in urban areas prefer to get their drinking water from these water stations, it’s simply clean and safe to drink.

This is the reply from an ex-OFW about my inquiries of setting-up a water refilling station. He’s an owner and supplier.

Sir ito po ang complete information ko about water refilling station. In here meron po akong offer for 1000gpd, mga tips at requirements sa wrs. About your questions… ROI maybe a year…kasi we all know that the first three months ay more on marketing.

If you will really decide to go into this business, I am willing to help you, I do not mind visiting the site kun meron na kayo. I will give you ideas how to run the business…Promo ko po yan sa first five customers ko.Salamat and you will not regret going into this business…

Go into water refilling station business because:

  1. You can earn 40 thousand a month.
  2. Very easy to operate and can be installed right under your home.
  3. Water is a basic need. Your customer will grow as time goes by. You can pass the business to your kids and generation ahead.
  4. Lot of people really made it big because of this business. Do not let somebody do it before you do.
  5. You will be proud and happy to own a water refilling station (speaking from experience).

Equipments:

1000 GPD Reverse Osmosis Water Purifying Unit.

1. Filters:
- 10×54″ FRP (blue), Multimedia filter with timer head
- 10×54″FRP (blue), Granular Activated Carbon, with timer head
- 10×54″ FRP (Blue), Softener with timer head and brine tank
- 20″ slim (blue), 5 micron sediment filter
- 20″ slim (blue), polishing filter

2. Reverse Osmosis Unit
- 1 no. 2.5×40″ R.O. membrane w/ stainless casing
- ½ hp procon pump, USA
- Low pressure controller
- 2 flowmeters
- 2 Pressure gauges
- stainless steel frame
- Control Panel for automation.

3. Water tanks
- 210gallons stainless steel raw water tank
- 210 gallons stainless steek product tank

4. Disinfection
- Ultraviolet – Germicdal (5GPM)

5. Pumps , motors
- 0.5hp pumps, stainless head, Italy complete with 21 gallons s/s pressure tank, pressure switch at gauge.
- 0.5 hp pumps (raw), stainles head, Italy with switch and gauge.

6. Installation :
- Installation and supply of pipes for 25sqmeter area is included in our offer.

7. Warranty
- 1 year warranty for mechanical parts
- 6 months warranty for electrical parts

8. Delivery:
Free within Metro Manila

9. Support
1 year technical support.
1 week training of your staff.

10. Package Price: P250,000.00 only

Advantages of our system
- The system is fully automatic and requires minimum maintenance and monitoring.
- The system can be upgraded upto 2000GPD with minimum cost.
- Pumps are from Italy
- Protection from low pressure, overload and short circuit.

I do not sell just to make money but also to help good and hard working people to survive this test in life – that is my commitment I know this business and I have learned to love it. Let me share my blessing. I am willing to help.

Water Refilling Station Costing, requirements and other important informations.

A. Capital Computation

a. 1000GPD water purification
b. Renovation of the station
c. Sign board
d. Stickers
e. 100 Bottles slim
f. 100 Bottles round
g. Motorcycle
h. two layer side car
i. Paper , documentation
j. Water testing
k. heat gun
250,000.00
75,000.00
3,500.00
12,500.00
12,500.00
15,000.00
65,000.00
15,000.00
3,500.00
4,500.00
2,500.00
Total
Say total capital
459,000.00
500,000.00

B. Cost, Sales, and Profit

  • Rent 5,000
  • Meralco 6,000
  • Water 3,500
  • Driver salary 4,500
  • Refiller salary 3,000
  • Fuel 1,500
  • Telephone 500
  • Depreciation 2,500
  • Maintenance 1,000
  • Consumables 1,000

Total cost 28,500

Sales for 1000GPD
Gallons (24hr.period) 1000
Bottles (5gal container) 200 bottles
Monthly (26days) 5,200 bottles
Sales (P35per bot) 182,000.00
Net Profit 153,500.00 monthly

Kung half lang ng capacity ang nabenta..meaning 100 bottles per day.
Sales = 91,000

Net profit 62,500.00 monthly, 64,000 monthly not bad pa rin di ba? Of course habang dumadami ang bottles produced at customer you may need to employ one more driver to accommodate the delivery.

C. Important Requirements:

  1. 25sq meters of space
  2. Good source of water. Total Dissolved Solids must be below 500ppm. Meron ako tester na ginagamit to know ang TDS ng tubig. Above this TDS (500ppm) baka the quality ng product ay maapektuhan.

D. Papers required for acquiring the License for your WRS

  1. DTI
  2. Barangay permit
  3. Mayor’s permit
  4. Sanitary permit from Municipality or DOH

E. Suggestions:

E1. Location

  1. You do not need to rent spacious place at along highway or road dahil tataas lang ang operating cost mo. If you have 25sqmeter sa bahay mo that will be enough. Or if you will rent naman siguro maximum take a place that would cost from 5000 to 10,000 maximum at dapat meron agreement for 5 years at least.
  2. If you are inside a well populated subdivision, very good because from the subdivision itsel you can easily earn 2 to 4k sales per day. At matipid pa sa gasolina.
  3. You do not need to be along the highway dahil 90percent of your sales will be home delivery.

E2: Equipments.

  • Actually you are saving if you will get higher capacity of Reverse Osmosis purification unit. You need to run the system half of the time(12hrs. Only) to produce 1000 gallons. Anyway, yung equipments naman ay madali i-upgrade.
  • If you can afford, get the fully automatic system. Wala ka ng babantayan na mapupuno or aapaw sa tanke. Just switch it on at it will automatically start and stop when empty at full na ang mga tangke.

E3: Delivery

You should have an idea kung saan ang maging market mo. Kung subdivision lang..motorcycle na lang ang biling mo dahil it can carry 25 bottles din at matipid sa gasolina. In our case P500 full tank every 8-10days. Noong jeep ang gamit namin it is P100 per day. Some uses padyak lang. Kung posible sa lugar niyo why not.

Contract : others will have a contract with motorcycle drivers P5 per gallon commission para ideliver ang tubig.

I design, supply and install water refilling station. Just do not forget to let me quote at least
when you come to a point of really starting a business.

Thank you again and hope to hear from you soon.

Good luck and God Bless,

Richard A. Enriquez – richardae@yahoo.com

photo from mpcphil.com

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  1. pinky says:

    NEWEST FRANCHISE OPPORTUNITY!
    New Beginning, New Business.
    WORLDS OF WATER (WOW) , the first of its kind that is offered for franchise only from the leader of innovations and technology advancement, the original maker of 3n1 systems, LIVINGWATER SYSTEM INC.
    What is WOW? It is a supply shop for all water treatment from residential, commercial and Industrial parts from the smallest to the largest parts and supplies requirement. Since Water refilling Station is one of the biggest chunk in the water industry, Worlds Of Water has offered the widest range and most complete lines of water station products from bottles(PET Small and & 5 gallons), seals, dispensers, bottle caps, Uniforms, Sticker and Labels, industrial Salt, Signages as well as filters, membranes, stainless Steel, Brine and FRP tanks (complete Line of parts and Support Products). Furthermore, WOW is the only supply shop in the Philippines that has the most complete lines of water station products. In line with WOW’s motto “Serbisyo ko WOW!” the company is also offering services to those water refilling stations who are having a problem with who will maintain and monitor their water refilling stations.
    WOW’s capability-WOW is a direct importer of parts and supplies fro m USA, JAPAN,TAIWAN and CHINA, aside from the fact that it has its own manufacturing of bottles (PET, 5 gallon Slim and round), and a bottling plant with an on going ISO certification application.
    Would I earn if I Franchise WOW? Definitely YES. Primarily because, you have a captured market. All those systems installed by Livingwater in the area where you opened your franchise will automatically become your customer. WOW has a UNIVERSAL price wherever it is located. Whether its in Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao, we have a uniform price and that’s the biggest advantage that the customers could ever have, the best quality, with the lowest price.
    Where are the current WOW offices? WOW has been operating successfully in Taguig, Laguna, Cavite, Davao and Cebu and the next branches to open are WOW Quezon City and WOW Manila.
    What is my protection if I franchised WOW? You have a territorial rights of 1 WOW store per city depending on the # of water station existing or 1 WOW store per province for outside metro manila, and all our setup systems from that particular area will become yours, because they don’t have to come over to our office since we just offer the same price. Truly, Livingwater is realizing its commitment to our valued clients, “Because we valued you, we came closer to you” thru WOW Store.
    How to start Franchising WOW or How much is the franchise of WOW? I guess we can discuss it in a more detailed manner thru contacting me at pinkycrisologo888@yahoo.com.ph or your can reach me at 0917-852-7126, landline 02-489-5488
    If you think that water refilling station business is already saturated, well I can say its not yet…. However, should it come to a point of saturation, who will serve and supply them?…. Its WOW.
    Para kumita ng WOW, mag franchise ng WOW, and negosyong talagang WOW na WOW!

    ENGR PINKY CRISOLOGO Ch.E
    Business Development Engineer
    Worlds Of Water (WOW)

  2. pinky says:

    As far as my knowledge is concerned, all of the above considerations of why flow rate is low even after installation is right, but I would just like to add that its not only the design that matters, why membrane flow rate is low, because reverse osmosis system is very basic design and easily copied. One of the reasons also is the membrane capacity. Almost everybody is selling the membrane or systems with the tag “3000 GPD”, but is it really real 3000 GPD?
    Normally, membrane of different brands has different production capacity, nominal salt rejection, permeate flow, NaCl solution tested condition, operating pressure or simply the technical specification of the membrane that is being purchased.
    Say for example, FILMTEC LE 4040 is 2500 GPD with 99% nominal Salt Rejection and 2000 ppm Nacl Soln , ESPA 4 is 2500 GPD – 99% salt rejection and 500 ppm NaCl Soln, ESPA 1 is 2600 GPD -99.3% and 1500 ppm NaCl Soln, ESPA 3 is 3000GPD 98.5% nominal salt rejection at 1500 ppm NaCl Soln.
    They have different production level, but the most important matter is the quality of source water that the customer has. Sometimes, even if the customer wants the higher flow rate but their quality of water is not applicable for the membrane, that’s why lower flow rate membrane is installed, but can withstand the quality of source water based on the result of Physico Chemical Analysis.
    Then, it is really a must to check the water sample first before offering the system to ensure it will work properly.

    ENGR PINKY CRISOLOGO Ch.E
    pinkycrisologo888@yahoo.com.ph
    0917-852-7126
    02-489-5488

  3. rvp says:

    FYI,

    Low Production of Membrane after installation is due to lack of consideration to the design.Water Station Owner’s always blamed the technicians, but the person responsible for this low production is the designer.

    In addition to sir orly,

    Below are the factors that can affect the capacity of your membrane,

    1)Effect of pressure affects both the water flux and salt rejection of RO membranes.

    2)Effect of temperature-the productivity of membrane is sensitive in changes of feed water temperature. Increased feedwater temperature also results in lower salt rejection or higher salt passage. This is due to a higher diffusion rate for salt through the membrane.

    3)Effect of salt concentration-As salt concentration increases, so does osmotic pressure.

    4)Effect of recovery-If percentage recovery is increased , the salts in the residual feed become more concentrated and the natural osmotic pressure will increase until it is as high as the applied feed pressure.

    5) Effect of pH-Membrane salt rejection performance depends on pH. Water flux may also be affected.

    Please make sure that the product developer/designer of the machine will give the water balance computations, their design criteria and their quality testing before installation.

    Today, Philippines have the most numbers of water refilling station in Asia and upon reading the previous blog, I appreciate that most of you are interested/running or owner of this business.

    If you need some question or querry, just drop a message.

    Thank you…

  4. daniel says:

    sir Orly,

    Thanks sa mga information, makakatulong talaga ng malaki sa mga WRS business ang mga ginagawa mo…

  5. ORLY-SHANGHAI says:

    Just want to share my experiences about membrane troubleshooting. Everytime clients are complaining to me about the issue of low production upon installation of the new membrane, I always tell them that we have to test the membrane to confirm the issue. If clients are saying that it is a factory defect, upon testing the membrane, I will rule out that it is not factory defect but Customer’s Defect or Technician’s Defect.

    What do I mean by this? First of all you have to understand that Reverse Osmosis is a technical concept and for you to fully understand the system, you have to know the Principle of Reverse Osmosis.

    If someone will be saying that they know how to install the membrane but does not understand the concept, then that is where the problem always lies.

    First every membrane has its own test protocol according to its applied pressure, production, NACL and recovery rate. When we talk of NACL, we are talking of the osmotic pressure, if someone will say they don’t know this but have installed so many membranes, do you think that guy is credible and competent enough to discuss issues about membrane trouble shooting.

    Second, membrane production depends on feed pressure and flowrate. If you ask them what is the feed flowrate and they do not know the capacity of the pump head or the performance curve of the vertical motor that they are using? Patay na!!!!!!

    How about the capacity of the feed pump? Is it capable enough to sustain the requirement of the RO module? What is the assumptive delivery volume of the said pump once it reaches the pump head?

    These are just some of the things to consider when designing a system or doing the membrane troubleshooting.

    The membrane is the most sensitive part of the basic systems that we are selling (WRS Set-up) any deviation from the technical design would affect its performance.

    The main issue is what part of the system is contributory to the failure of the membrane.
    That is where troubleshooting comes in. Sabi ko nga uli,”You Hit the Nail by the Head”
    Others are doing the “Guessing Game” or others will be doing it their own way, sabi nga may sariling concept, habang gumagawa nga sila kumakanta pa ng “MY WAY ni Paul Anka”

    I am telling you all of these not to offend others doing their livelihood but to inform them the need to enrich their knowledge so that they can became useful and not damaging to the Water Industry.

    For me, I never stop reading water treatment articles and I even ask my friends if I have doubts on certain issues. I am not saying na sobrang galing ko, in fact marami pa ko d alam and how I wish na mas marami akong ma meet na tao na magagaling sa Water Treatment para lalo pa ko matuto.

    I just try to see that what I am doing is within the bounds of water filtration and purification concept.

  6. Joey Miguel says:

    To pinky:

    Hi, sana tapos na’to,. basta sana next time, itext or you can call me na lang, nag kalat naman contact number ko sa internet.

    Hindi ko talaga ugali yung ginawa ni anti-livingwater. sa pag kakaalam ko wala akong post dito sa site na ito na nag flag ako ng ads eh. dahil puro pag mamay-ari ng ibang tao.

    To all:

    gusto ko lang mag warning sa inyo about Conficker Worm Virus. madalas tamaan ang mga gantong site, blog, friendster, multiply, software site, crack site, porn site. for example sa friendster they can easily fake na akala mo nag add or simply invitation lang.

    click the link below for more info

    http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/128643/beware-conficker-worm-come-april-1/

  7. Joey Miguel says:

    To: Orly, Leo & Daniel

    Nagulat lang ako, yun lang. Name ko yung andito eh, nang yari na ito once sa isang ads ni Ma’am Grace (wife ng boss ko) sabi ko wag erase yung Comment. Name ko din ang andoon, ang nakakatawa galit sakin yung username na “bicolwater”, eh wala akong client na tiga bicol. mejo may similarity sa sinabi nung isa, but hindi ako nang bibintang.

    1 yr palang ako sa delcare, ginawa ko lahat ng best para mabago lahat ng layout at designs, ultimo proposal binago ko.

    Kaya kung ano man ang naabutan kong alitan, labas ako don. Pinag tataka ko lang bakit name ko nadawit. Kaya nga ako humingi ng proof na ako yung anti-livingwater para mapatunayan kung ano totoo.

    Sakin tapos na, i guess alam na ng iba kung ano totoo. Ulitin ko, yoko ng away, nag reply ako dahil name ko ang andito.

    Sorry kung nagulo ito, pero never ako nag post/spam dito sa ads na ito. Marunong ako rumespeto ng may ads na may ads.

    To: Giant

    Sino ka naman,? oo tanga ako, actually bobong bata ako ^_^ why don’t you visit this site http://pinoydesign.freefoums.org/

    nga pala, sino gusto matuto sa designing at layouting? try nyo yung site na yun. share ko lang po. enjoy.,

    mode nga pala ako dyan matalinong Giant ^^ kung sino ka man,.

    again sorry ulit, God bless us all

  8. daniel says:

    Dear ALL,

    Lets give peace a chance….

  9. valentine_14 says:

    Gud day sa lahat…..in every tym na binubuksan ko itong site na eto bangayan ang lagi ko nabubungaran.this site is not created para mag away,maghamunan,at magpagalingan.this site is being created para may matutunan lahat tayo.knowledge na hindi pa natin alam.sir orly is ryt.bakit hindi nyo ayusin.masyado na humahaba ang away nyo sa isat isa.sa totoo lang hindi maganda tingnan na parehas kaung installer na nagbabangayan.imbes na impress ang client sa inyo,baka masira lang kayo.kaya sana habang maaga ayusin nyo na po ung gusot nyo.ur both representative of your different company na dapat nyo protektahan.

  10. GIANT says:

    Hay nako.. Sobrang nakakatawa si Mr. Joey Miguel. AS IN SOBRA!!! Hindi nya alam kung ano ang pinagsasabi nya. PARA SYANG T-A-N-G-A!!! Gusto kong mamatay sa tawa dahil sa katangahan NYA!

  11. ORLY-SHANGHAI says:

    Miss Pinky/Mr. Joey

    Just a piece of advise to both of you,I don’t know where the misunderstanding came from,I have read all the things you have said,as I mentioned before,we have to do it on a different place and not to this blog,kse ang nangyayari is that,puro intrigahan ang pinag uusapan natin which actually violates the true essence of this blog.

    Walang values na mapupulot ang mga blog readers kapag puro ganyan takbo ng usapan.
    I am not saying not straight ako,actually there are times na mas grabe pa ako mag react sa inyo,but I try to see to it na ung concerned person ang binabanatan ko privately.Sabi nga you hit the nail by the head and settle the issue.

    Tungkol naman sa pagalingan sa water treatment,wag naman sana magkahamunan kse every individual has it’s own talent and ability,meron kayong d alam n alam ng iba or vice versa,mas maganda na meron tayong sharing of ideas kesa mag paligsahan tayo kung cno ang marunong.

    As for me I am not intimidated don sa mga taong magagaling,in fact mas gusto ko ung taong mas maraming alam sa kin kse marami ako matututunan sa kanya.

    Frankly speaking,walang formal study ng water treatment d2 s Pinas,lahat tayo are depending sa mga materials n nababasa natin at comments coming from the incumbent people who did the water treatment way ahead of us.

    My son is a graduate of Mechanical Engineering,one of my cousin is a civil engineer,my aunt is a doctor and my niece is a chemical engineer but all of them knows nothing about water treatment but they all have the potential of knowing it as long as they will study the concept diligently.

    Same case with all of us guys,lahat tayo puede matuto as long as we do it the right way.that’s why one of my vision is to share what I know to the blog readers not for the purpose of telling them na marami ako alam,but to help them understand what water industry is all about and nagbabasa rin ako ng mga article na ginagawa ng ibang bloggers d2 for me to enrich my knowledge,now kung puro inttrigahan at tirahan tayo,baka yan ang values na mapulot ng readers natin eh d na magiging effective tong site na to.

    I just hope all of us will be having a peaceful coexistance in this blog.D tayo nagpapagalingan d2,palitan lng ng mga opinion at kuro kuro and the end,walang mananalo d2 s blog n isang tao,kungdi lahat tayo e panalo kse lahat tayo me napulot n aral.

    Ayos po ba? So Miss Pinky at Mr.Joey ayusin nyo n ung problema nyo and let us start to join hands para matulungan natin ung mga blog readers na naghahanap ng kasagutan sa mga tanong nila.

  12. Joey Miguel says:

    alam ko nasa hong kong si ma’am belyne.

    nakausap ko narin si sir edward.

    Ito lang sakin, bago ka pumutak kasi,. hinahamon kita ngaun na ipost dito ng IT nyo yung IP address namin nyang nang gugulo na anti-livingwater ha.

    hindi na ako mag sasalita ng kung ano, dahil kahit ano sabihin ko dito, hindi din alam ng mga nag iinquire dito kung sino nag sasabi ng totoo.

    Ito lang hamon ko, paki post lang ang IP address na na detect nyo, mag paka transparent tayo, ng lumabas ang totoo dahil hindi ako yang anti-livingwater na yan.

    re: carina tapas, wala akong sinabi na tungkol sa kanila,. meron ba? o yang anti-livingwater nanaman pinag basehan mo?

    re: atty of bacoor, client ko yan before, but hindi ko na tinrabaho yan, wife ng boss ko nag trabaho dyan. saka sa pag kakaalam ko, siya sakit sa ulo hindi kami. before ka mag salita alamin mo muna kasi, hindi yung nang huhula at naniniwala sa sabi sabi.

    hangat maari ayoko ng away, kaya un nalang paki post nalang dito. mas masarap pa kausap si ma’am belyne. hindi one sided.

    transparency is the way to end this topic. happy na ako don.

    • Leo says:

      @Pinky and Joey Miguel, for the benefit of the readers here at EntrePinoys, i think its better to settle your differences or whatever issues you have with each other offline or in different venue, not here.

  13. pinky says:

    to richard enriquez and other users of this blog,
    sorry for again messing up with these site, last ko na po na defend eto, nakakapagod na rin at nakakainis.
    sana maintindihan ni mr miguel at mabasa yung gusto ng mga bloggers dito, informative tool at di pag aaway.i promise di na po uli ako sasagot sa issue ni mr miguel, at sana wag na nya akong piliting sumagot pa.
    Sir Orly, ano pa bang ibang mga informative tool ang maise share mo samin?

  14. pinky says:

    mr joey miguel,
    kahit mabasa to ng boss ko, she may reprimand me na wag bumaba ng level, pero she can see, i just defend for her company and im sure she will understand it.wla naman ako ginawa masama at lahat ng pinag sasabi ko dito ay kaya ko panindigan at patunayan kahit sa korte.
    Sales engineer ako sa livingwater, at sa pagbebenta namin, never kami gumagamit ng ibang company, pero pag narinig namin from the cleint mismo na galing sa iba ibang company na may comment samin, of course di pede palampasin at kelangan sagutin, ang dont tell me youre not doing such, grabe pa nga kayo manira eh, atleast kami defending lang.
    uulitin ko, lahat ng sinabi ko dito kaya kung patunayan kahit sa korte.

  15. pinky says:

    hi joey miguel,
    una sa lahat, sigurado ako na ikaw yun, gusto mo malaman kung pano ko nalaman? kung IT ka, may IT rin kami at mas may kakayahang alamin ang gusto naming matrace, and im really pretty sure that its you.Our IT showed me the links that points on you.
    if you dont know ms reniva from bicol, then you can call her, ive posted her number in the previous discussion, bago lang sya kumuha sa inyo, ilang months pa lang.If youre saying mas malaki ang utang namin kesa sa inyo, possible, because of course we are far better and bigger than your company, but the bottom line is, marami gustong magpapautang samin, kse good payer ung company namin. while kayo, alam nyo na yan….i dont have to elaborate so much.
    regarding naman kay carina tapas, kausap ko sya last week kase bumili sya ng supplies, ive talked to her and asked her bout the issue and she confirmed wala syang nakausap na iba maliban sa delcare, na naikwento lang naman daw nya without any malice pero pinabasa ko sa kanya ang previous post mo, at sinabi nya na di ganun ang sinabi nya, see?nag imbento ka pa, our admin even told her na pag nag file kami ng case, willing ba sya to testify, and she said YES.
    if you would start it all from the start, hindi kami ang nauna, nag alias ka pa kse.
    and if you are saying na marami kang nasulot samin, i beg your pardon, mas marami kami nasulot, ung napunta lang sa inyo, ung gusto P50k lang ang DP pero twagan mo kaya si Atty sa bacoor nyo, ano bang nangyari sa kanya? sa awa ng dyos samin bumibili ng supplies ngayon kaya naikwento nya lahat ng escapades nya sa company nyo. ayaw ko muna idetalye at i dont see other bloggers here are interested.
    kung sa baho, wala kaming dapat ikatakot,wag ka lang mag imbento ng kwento gaya kay tapas, edited version mo.
    kung gusto mo magkaalaman lung sino magaling satin, cge arrange a contest ng patalinuhan. since nasa water industry tayo, cge anything about water yung topics,para magkaalaman na kung sino ang totoong me alam o nag aalam alaman lang. name your venue, kse di ko pinaghirapan maging chemical engineer para lang walang matutunan.
    actually di naman kabastusan yung ginawa ko, mas bastos ung ginawa mo, at nagtatago ka pa sa pangalan ng iba, di naman kami tanga para di ka matrace, kung IT ka, dapat alam mo yun!
    Wag mo na isali ung boss ko dito kse pag nabasa nya lahat ng pinag post mo even before on the other blogs, lalo na ung moderated ng friend mo, nag alias ka rin dun.baka sya mismo pupunta sa ofc nyo pagbalik nya galing hongkong office namin. kya dont feel innocent because we are not stupid,we wont become what we have achieved right now, if we are that stupid as you think, maybe kayo….
    so mr joey miguel aka anti livingwater, as what ive said, im very much sure na ikaw yun, may proof ako.
    and if may problema ka pa sakin, email me at pinkycrisologo888@yahoo.com.ph. wag tayo mag away dito kse nakakaistorbo tayo, kung lalaki ka tlaga, at kung totoong matapang ka, magkita tayo ng personal para magkaalaman kung sino ang totoong magaling.email mo na lang ako ha kung kelan at san mo gusto, para makita at makilala mo ako.wag ka papogi dito kse sa sunod na mag alias ka pa, iisipin ko ng bakla ka.

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